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Accurate Power Levels
Topic Started: Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM (11,681 Views)
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Way too low overall after Freeza Saga. I would never think of putting Cell Games Goku any less than 3 billion.

And sometimes I think it's highly likely that base saiyans surpass 100% Freeza by the Buu Saga at the absolute latest.
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Good up until the end of Frieza in my opinion. The powers are too scale, but I find that the androids are all too low. After that, everyone stays pretty low
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znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Raditz: 1,200

Saibamen = 1200, and they only rival Raditz; he should be higher
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Piccolo,(Special Beam Cannon) [2nd Try]: 1,485

2nd try was anime only

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Piccolo,: 3,500

Piccolo should be under Gohan's Masenko
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Gohan: 981
Gohan,angry: 3,000

981 was suppressed Gohan, enraged was a bit higher than 2800 only (actually, the Masenko was 2800)

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Nappa: 4,000

Should be a lot closer to Goku than this. I wouldn't go lower than 7000, and even that might be pushin it..

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Vegeta,Oozaru: 180,000
Vegeta lost a lot of chi making the fake moon; he should be way lower than 180,000 upon transforming

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Gohan: 14,000
Krillin: 13,000


They're not this strong until Guru's unlocking thing

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Cui: 19,000
18,000

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Zarbon,transformed: 30,000
Not possible. He was a little lower than zenkai'd Vegeta, who was only close to 30,000, 30,000 at the max if you wanna push it
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Vegeta: 30,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Zarbon,transformed: 30,000
Again, should be slightly lower than 30k

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Krillin,after Guru’s power up: 19,000
If they were this high, then the "over 10,000" statement would've been an exaggeration. Also, Gohan's enraged power was only a little higher than 20,000. He can't be getting only around 1.06x stronger with a rage boost
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Gohan, after Guru’s power up: 24,000
Too high..
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Vegeta Powerd Up 35,000
Shouldn't be any higher than 30k

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Jeice: 50,000
Burter: 45,000
Recoome: 40,000
Jeice is too close to 60,000; a PL of 60,000 was supposed to make Jeice look like a total joke, just like it did Recoome. Jeice shouldn't be so far ahead
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Frieza,form 2: 1,000,000
1,000,000+
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Piccolo ( fused with nail without weghits) 1,000,000
Piccolo was arguably superior IMO..he was above Freeza by a bit, then Freeza was ahead by a bit after raising speed, and then Piccolo removes his weights which should put him higher again
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Vegeta,after Dende’s heal: 2,500,000
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000
Vegeta has to be higher than 3rd for Freeza, who you have at 2.5 mil as well, if he expects to face form 4 Freeza
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Frieza, 50% of full power: 60,000,000
Frieza, full power: 120,000,000
Goku: 3,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku: 150,000,000


First off, Freeza should be a little higher than Base Goku initially. Secondly, Freeza is waaay weaker than SSj Goku according to this which can't be true. Heck, your gap between Vegeta and Goku is smaller than your gap between Freeza and Goku (1.2x as opposed to 1.25x).

Your Freeza Saga PLs are way too low overall, as well. Like Vegeta being on par with Form 3 Freeza? That's a no-no. Don't feel the need to be so restricted to using the Daiz levels man.



znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Piccolo 175,000,000

Piccolo should be much higher than this...you have him on par with Trunks from before, which shouldn't be the case as his power is a shocker for everyone, and he's likely above sick Goku
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Andriod 20 pre absorption 120,000,000
Andriod 20 post absorption 160,000,000
Andriod 19 pre absorption 90,000,000
Andriod 19 post absorption 140,000,000


19 pre shouldn't be so much lower than Freeza, and 19 post should be a little higher than Trunks from 3 years ago. 20 should of course be higher, in turn.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Goku ssj 300,000,000
Trunks ssj 260,000,000
Vegeta ssj 375,000,000
Andriod 17,400,000,000
Andriod 18 400,000,000


17 is above 18, and the gap between the androids and Vegeta is FAR too small. Vegeta was helpless against an 18 who wasn't even trying.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Piccolo with weights 300,000,00
Impercet cell: 290,000,000
Piccolo without weghits 350,000,000

All 3 should be far stronger than Trunks, Vegeta, and Goku
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Impercet cell post absorption 500,000,000
Andriod 16 500,000,000
Piccolo used the Light Grenade on Cell, which should have at least a similar amplification as the Special Beam Cannon if not higher. SBC was like 3.2x or something, so Light Grenade should be at least 3.5x. Cell tanked that.

Cell >>> Light Grenade > 3.2x Piccolo >>>> Piccolo.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Ssj vegeta 500,000,000
Assj vegeta 1,500,000,000
Too big of an increase. Remember, ASSj is ditched later on for normal SSj as normal SSj is the best balance-wise....that wouldn't be the case if ASSj was so much stronger
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Vegeta final flash 2,000,000,000
Your final flash amplifier is tiny. It should be the same as Light Grenade, though most likely much higher
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Ussj trunks 1,800,000,000
USSj should have a far bigger boost than ASSj [/color]
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM

Base goku 12,000,000
Base gohan 9,000,000
Mssj goku suppressed 1,800,000,000
Mssj gohan suppressed 1,350,000,000
Gohan > Goku, and I just realized that you have an increasing SSj multiplier. Why?

I'll just stop here. Your levels need some work. They're far too low, especially given later implications, and you tried too hard to stay true to the Daiz PLs. I like the effort, but again, needs more work.

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Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
sayain saga

~Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo~
Raditz: 1,200
Piccolo w/weighted clothing: 320
Piccolo w/o weighted clothing: 408
Piccolo, (Special Beam Cannon) [1st Try]: 1,330
Piccolo,(Special Beam Cannon) [2nd Try]: 1,485
Goku w/weighted clothing: 330
Goku w/o weighted clothing: 416
Goku, Kamehameha: 924
Gohan: 710
Gohan,Angry: 1,307
~After Battle~
Master Roshi: 139
Krillin: 206
Tien: 250
Yamcha: 177
Chaotzu: 145
~Arrival of Vegeta and Nappa~
Saibamen: 1,200
Yamcha: 1,480

Krillin 1,750
Tien: 1,830
Chaotzu :610
Piccolo,: 3,500
Gohan: 981
Gohan,angry: 3,000

~Arrival of Goku~
Goku: 5,000
Goku,powered up: 8,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken: 16,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken times 3: 24,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken times 4: 32,000
Nappa: 4,000
Vegeta: 16,000
Vegeta,powered up: 18,000
Vegeta,Gallet Gun: 35,000
Vegeta,Oozaru: 180,000




Frieza Saga
~Gohan and Krillin vs Frieza's Henchmen~
Gohan: 14,000
Krillin: 13,000
Henchmen: 1,000
~Vegeta vs Cui~
Vegeta: 24,000
Cui: 19,000
~Vegeta vs Dodoria~
Vegeta: 24,000
Dodoria: 21,000
~Vegeta vs Zarbon (Round 1)~
Vegeta: 24,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Zarbon,transformed: 30,000
~Vegeta vs Zarbon (Round 2)~
Vegeta: 30,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Zarbon,transformed: 30,000
~Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta vs The Ginyu Force~
Krillin,after Guru’s power up: 19,000
Gohan, after Guru’s power up: 24,000
Vegeta: 30,000
Vegeta Powerd Up 35,000
Guldo: 10,000
Recoome: 40,000
~Goku vs Ginyu Force~
Goku: 90,000
Goku: Kaioken for Ginyu fight: 180,000
Jeice: 50,000
Burter: 45,000
Recoome: 40,000
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
Ginyu,in Goku's body: 23,000
Vegeta: 60,000
~Nail vs Frieza~
Nail: 42,000
Freezer: 530,000
~Vegeta vs Freezer (1st Fight)~
Vegeta full power: 420,000
Frieza: 530,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,000,000
~Piccolo vs Frieza~

Piccolo (after fusing with Nail): 800,000
Piccolo ( fused with nail without weghits) 1,000,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,000,000
Frieza,form 3: 2,500,000
~Vegeta vs Frieza (2nd Fight)~
Vegeta,after Dende’s heal: 2,500,000
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000

batle on king kai planet
Tien 60,000
yamcha 50,000
chaotzu 13,000

~Goku vs Frieza~
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000
Frieza, 50% of full power: 60,000,000
Frieza, full power: 120,000,000
Goku: 3,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku: 150,000,000



Trunks arrival

Cybrog frizea 155,000,000
King cold 130,000,000
Base trunks 3,500,000,
Ssj trunks 175,000,000
Piccolo 2,000,000
Vegeta 3,000,000
Tien 800,000
Krillain 500,000
Yamaha 400,000
Chaotzu 100,000
Goku 4,000,000
Ssj goku 200,000,000


3 years later

Goku 6,000,000
Trunks 5,200,000
Vegeta 7,500,000
Tien 3,000,000
Krillain 1,500,000
Yamcha ,1,000,000
Chaoztu : 500,000
Piccolo 175,000,000
Andriod 20 pre absorption 120,000,000
Andriod 20 post absorption 160,000,000
Andriod 19 pre absorption 90,000,000
Andriod 19 post absorption 140,000,000
Goku ssj 300,000,000
Trunks ssj 260,000,000
Vegeta ssj 375,000,000
Andriod 17,400,000,000
Andriod 18 400,000,000

Piccolo fused with kami

Piccolo with weights 300,000,00
Impercet cell: 290,000,000
Piccolo without weghits 350,000,000
Piccolo full power up 400,000,000
Andriod 17 400,000,00
Andriod 18 400,000,00
Impercet cell post absorption 500,000,000
Andriod 16 500,000,000







Semi perfect cell

Semi perfect cell 900,000,000
Tien tri beam 600,000,000
Base vegeta 10,000,000
Ssj vegeta 500,000,000
Assj vegeta 1,500,000,000
Base trunks 9,000,000
Ssj trunks 450,000,000
Assj trunks 1.375,000,000


Perfect cell

Ascended vegeta 1,500,000,000
Perfect cell suppressed 1,800,000,000
Vegeta final flash 2,000,000,000
Ussj trunks 1,800,000,000
Base goku 12,000,000
Base gohan 9,000,000
Mssj goku suppressed 1,800,000,000
Mssj gohan suppressed 1,350,000,000


Cell games

Piccolo: 1,600,000,000
Tien 5,000,000
Krillin 3,000,000
Yamcha 2,000,000
Choaztu 1,000,000
Base trunks 11,000,000
Ssj trunks 550,000,000
Assj trunks 1,650,000,000
Base vegeta 12,000,000
Ssj vegeta 600,000,000
Assj vegeta 1,800,000,000
Mssj goku full power up 2,400,000,000
Perfect cell powerd up 2,400,000,000
Mssj gohan full power up 1,800,000,000
tired mssj goku 1,800,000,000
Cell jr 2,400,000,000
Ssj2 gohan 3,600,000,000
Cell full power 3,000,000,000
Bulky full power Cell 3,500,000,000
Super perfect cell 3,500,000,000
Super perfect Cell kamehameha 4,000,000,000
Ssj2 Gohan kamehameha 3,000,000,000
Ssj2 Gohan full power kamehameha 5,000,000,000
-Piccolo can't be 3500.Nappa took him down with one blow.Besides,he stated that Enraged Gohan>Him.So,he's less than 3000.I'd say 2500.
-Cui would be better at 18.000.He said that Vegeta was supposed to be equal to him,and,right after that,the reading went to 19.000.
-Zarbon is at 21.000,at most,considering the beating he took from Vegeta.
-Why do you have Kuririn and Gohan at Ginyu Force at 19 and 24 k?They were stated to be over 10 k,which means they were a little over that.If they
had the numbers you say,they would be stated to be close to 20 k.
-Jeice and Burter are too high,considering the beating they took from Goku of 60 k supression.Lower them to Recoome's level.
-Vegeta was pretty close to Frieza's 530 k.Raise him to 500 k.
-Piccolo with weights was even with Frieza's second form.Of course,it is possible that Frieza's statement about his initial supression at 2nd form being
1 mil was a bluff,since Vegeta says so.Therefore,your estimation here is not necessarily wrong.
-Vegeta post zenkai must be higher than Frieza's 3rd form,since he was sure he could win.
-I think the gap between SSJ F.Trunks/Mecha Frieza should be higher,since Trunks was sure he could beat easily both Frieza and Cold,at the same
time.
-The gap between F.Trunks/Yardrat Goku is too small.Goku finger blocked Trunkses sword attack.
-The gap between Goku/Vegeta at Androids Saga is too big.
-Piccolo dominated 20 post.Their gap can't be that low.
-Piccolo's light grenade isn't necessarily stronger than 3,5x special beam cannon,since it requires less time to be charged.But,it's definitely stronger
than 2x demon flash.Yet,Imperfect Cell didn't even budge.I have Imperfect Cell post humans at 5x Piccolo.
-Semi Cell less than 2x Sixteen?He took a punch on the face from Sixteen and it was like nothing happened.And Semi Cell wasn't even at full power
at that point.
-How can Perfect Cell supressed be only 20% stronger than Vegeta?He took a kick on the neck like nothing.He must be at least 2x Vegeta.
-Vegeta's final flash must be >>Perfect Cell.If it was only slightly above,as you have it,it wouldn't have destroyed Cell's body.
-USSJ Trunks is stated to be stronger than Perfect Cell supressed,by a wide margin.Yet,you have them equal.
-You have humans at Cell Games 2x stronger than at Androids Saga.Seriously,how did they get such a boost in two weeks,without rosat or anything
special?
-SSJ Gohan was both stated to be stronger than SSJ Goku AND dodging Cell's hits.Why do you have him weaker than those two?
-SSJ2 Gohan only 20% stronger than FP Cell?He took Cell's punch on the face,without fazing.
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znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
sayain saga

~Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo~
Raditz: 1,200
Piccolo w/weighted clothing: 320
Piccolo w/o weighted clothing: 408
Piccolo, (Special Beam Cannon) [1st Try]: 1,330
Piccolo,(Special Beam Cannon) [2nd Try]: 1,485
Goku w/weighted clothing: 330
Goku w/o weighted clothing: 416
Goku, Kamehameha: 924
Gohan: 710
Gohan,Angry: 1,307
~After Battle~
Master Roshi: 139
Krillin: 206
Tien: 250
Yamcha: 177
Chaotzu: 145
~Arrival of Vegeta and Nappa~
Saibamen: 1,200
Yamcha: 1,480

Krillin 1,750
Tien: 1,830
Chaotzu :610
Piccolo,: 3,500
Gohan: 981
Gohan,angry: 3,000

~Arrival of Goku~
Goku: 5,000
Goku,powered up: 8,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken: 16,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken times 3: 24,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken times 4: 32,000
Nappa: 4,000
Vegeta: 16,000
Vegeta,powered up: 18,000
Vegeta,Gallet Gun: 35,000
Vegeta,Oozaru: 180,000




Frieza Saga
~Gohan and Krillin vs Frieza's Henchmen~
Gohan: 14,000
Krillin: 13,000
Henchmen: 1,000
~Vegeta vs Cui~
Vegeta: 24,000
Cui: 19,000
~Vegeta vs Dodoria~
Vegeta: 24,000
Dodoria: 21,000
~Vegeta vs Zarbon (Round 1)~
Vegeta: 24,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Zarbon,transformed: 30,000
~Vegeta vs Zarbon (Round 2)~
Vegeta: 30,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Zarbon,transformed: 30,000
~Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta vs The Ginyu Force~
Krillin,after Guru’s power up: 19,000
Gohan, after Guru’s power up: 24,000
Vegeta: 30,000
Vegeta Powerd Up 35,000
Guldo: 10,000
Recoome: 40,000
~Goku vs Ginyu Force~
Goku: 90,000
Goku: Kaioken for Ginyu fight: 180,000
Jeice: 50,000
Burter: 45,000
Recoome: 40,000
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
Ginyu,in Goku's body: 23,000
Vegeta: 60,000
~Nail vs Frieza~
Nail: 42,000
Freezer: 530,000
~Vegeta vs Freezer (1st Fight)~
Vegeta full power: 420,000
Frieza: 530,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,000,000
~Piccolo vs Frieza~

Piccolo (after fusing with Nail): 800,000
Piccolo ( fused with nail without weghits) 1,000,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,000,000
Frieza,form 3: 2,500,000
~Vegeta vs Frieza (2nd Fight)~
Vegeta,after Dende’s heal: 2,500,000
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000

batle on king kai planet
Tien 60,000
yamcha 50,000
chaotzu 13,000

~Goku vs Frieza~
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000
Frieza, 50% of full power: 60,000,000
Frieza, full power: 120,000,000
Goku: 3,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku: 150,000,000



Trunks arrival

Cybrog frizea 155,000,000
King cold 130,000,000
Base trunks 3,500,000,
Ssj trunks 175,000,000
Piccolo 2,000,000
Vegeta 3,000,000
Tien 800,000
Krillain 500,000
Yamaha 400,000
Chaotzu 100,000
Goku 4,000,000
Ssj goku 200,000,000


3 years later

Goku 6,000,000
Trunks 5,200,000
Vegeta 7,500,000
Tien 3,000,000
Krillain 1,500,000
Yamcha ,1,000,000
Chaoztu : 500,000
Piccolo 175,000,000
Andriod 20 pre absorption 120,000,000
Andriod 20 post absorption 160,000,000
Andriod 19 pre absorption 90,000,000
Andriod 19 post absorption 140,000,000
Goku ssj 300,000,000
Trunks ssj 260,000,000
Vegeta ssj 375,000,000
Andriod 17,400,000,000
Andriod 18 400,000,000

Piccolo fused with kami

Piccolo with weights 300,000,00
Impercet cell: 290,000,000
Piccolo without weghits 350,000,000
Piccolo full power up 400,000,000
Andriod 17 400,000,00
Andriod 18 400,000,00
Impercet cell post absorption 500,000,000
Andriod 16 500,000,000







Semi perfect cell

Semi perfect cell 900,000,000
Tien tri beam 600,000,000
Base vegeta 10,000,000
Ssj vegeta 500,000,000
Assj vegeta 1,500,000,000
Base trunks 9,000,000
Ssj trunks 450,000,000
Assj trunks 1.375,000,000


Perfect cell

Ascended vegeta 1,500,000,000
Perfect cell suppressed 1,800,000,000
Vegeta final flash 2,000,000,000
Ussj trunks 1,800,000,000
Base goku 12,000,000
Base gohan 9,000,000
Mssj goku suppressed 1,800,000,000
Mssj gohan suppressed 1,350,000,000


Cell games

Piccolo: 1,600,000,000
Tien 5,000,000
Krillin 3,000,000
Yamcha 2,000,000
Choaztu 1,000,000
Base trunks 11,000,000
Ssj trunks 550,000,000
Assj trunks 1,650,000,000
Base vegeta 12,000,000
Ssj vegeta 600,000,000
Assj vegeta 1,800,000,000
Mssj goku full power up 2,400,000,000
Perfect cell powerd up 2,400,000,000
Mssj gohan full power up 1,800,000,000
tired mssj goku 1,800,000,000
Cell jr 2,400,000,000
Ssj2 gohan 3,600,000,000
Cell full power 3,000,000,000
Bulky full power Cell 3,500,000,000
Super perfect cell 3,500,000,000
Super perfect Cell kamehameha 4,000,000,000
Ssj2 Gohan kamehameha 3,000,000,000
Ssj2 Gohan full power kamehameha 5,000,000,000
-Piccolo can't be 3500.Nappa took him down with one blow.Besides,he stated that Enraged Gohan>Him.So,he's less than 3000.I'd say 2500.
-Cui would be better at 18.000.He said that Vegeta was supposed to be equal to him,and,right after that,the reading went to 19.000.
-Zarbon is at 21.000,at most,considering the beating he took from Vegeta.
-Why do you have Kuririn and Gohan at Ginyu Force at 19 and 24 k?They were stated to be over 10 k,which means they were a little over that.If they
had the numbers you say,they would be stated to be close to 20 k.
-Jeice and Burter are too high,considering the beating they took from Goku of 60 k supression.Lower them to Recoome's level.
-Vegeta was pretty close to Frieza's 530 k.Raise him to 500 k.
-Piccolo with weights was even with Frieza's second form.Of course,it is possible that Frieza's statement about his initial supression at 2nd form being
1 mil was a bluff,since Vegeta says so.Therefore,your estimation here is not necessarily wrong.
-Vegeta post zenkai must be higher than Frieza's 3rd form,since he was sure he could win.
-I think the gap between SSJ F.Trunks/Mecha Frieza should be higher,since Trunks was sure he could beat easily both Frieza and Cold,at the same
time.
-The gap between F.Trunks/Yardrat Goku is too small.Goku finger blocked Trunkses sword attack.
-The gap between Goku/Vegeta at Androids Saga is too big.
-Piccolo dominated 20 post.Their gap can't be that low.
-Piccolo's light grenade isn't necessarily stronger than 3,5x special beam cannon,since it requires less time to be charged.But,it's definitely stronger
than 2x demon flash.Yet,Imperfect Cell didn't even budge.I have Imperfect Cell post humans at 5x Piccolo.
-Semi Cell less than 2x Sixteen?He took a punch on the face from Sixteen and it was like nothing happened.And Semi Cell wasn't even at full power
at that point.
-How can Perfect Cell supressed be only 20% stronger than Vegeta?He took a kick on the neck like nothing.He must be at least 2x Vegeta.
-Vegeta's final flash must be >>Perfect Cell.If it was only slightly above,as you have it,it wouldn't have destroyed Cell's body.
-USSJ Trunks is stated to be stronger than Perfect Cell supressed,by a wide margin.Yet,you have them equal.
-You have humans at Cell Games 2x stronger than at Androids Saga.Seriously,how did they get such a boost in two weeks,without rosat or anything
special?
-SSJ Gohan was both stated to be stronger than SSJ Goku AND dodging Cell's hits.Why do you have him weaker than those two?
-SSJ2 Gohan only 20% stronger than FP Cell?He took Cell's punch on the face,without fazing.
there not to low that list were the official power levels for sayain to frizea saga.
plus a character in cell saga/android doesn’t need to be 1000 times stronger just to be notilcbely stronger in the frizea saga characters weren’t overpowered just to be ahead,goku was only 30 million gap from frizea but in the Magana he beats him easily so power difference between piccolo and android 20 or perfect cell and vegeta are pretty much accurate . Also assj is 3 times stronger than normal ssj ultra ssj and mssj is 4 times stronger and ssj2 is 2 times that of ultra ssj and mssj so its around a 400 times multiplier
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Goku was 33,3/100 stronger than Vegeta,when he stomped him.So,to take full power hits without fazing,the gap must be even bigger.Your
Piccolo/20 and Vegeta/PC gaps are too low.
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Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Bulky full power Cell 3,600,000,000
Super perfect cell 3,600,000,000
These 2 shouldn't be equal.
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Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Bulky full power Cell 3,600,000,000
Super perfect cell 3,600,000,000
These 2 shouldn't be equal.
I think spc has the same power but greater speed than his bulky form I don’t think they would have made spc cell any stonger because you to have take in a account that in a ssj2 goahn vs. spc cell fight it would resemble that of ss2 gohan fight with bojack or bulky cell since bojack is based just after the cell games so probably has the same power as spc.
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Nov 12 2012, 05:36 PM
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Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Bulky full power Cell 3,600,000,000
Super perfect cell 3,600,000,000
These 2 shouldn't be equal.
I think spc has the same power but greater speed than his bulky form I don’t think they would have made spc cell any stonger because you to have take in a account that in a ssj2 goahn vs. spc cell fight it would resemble that of ss2 gohan fight with bojack or bulky cell since bojack is based just after the cell games so probably has the same power as spc.
It's stated in Cell's guidebook bio that his post-zenkai form is his "strongest existence."
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I'll comment on what I disagree with, from Saiya-jin to Freeza Saga:

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~Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo~
Raditz: 1,200 < Raditz is stronger than 1,200.
Piccolo w/weighted clothing: 320
Piccolo w/o weighted clothing: 408
Piccolo, (Special Beam Cannon) [1st Try]: 1,330
Piccolo,(Special Beam Cannon) [2nd Try]: 1,485
Goku w/weighted clothing: 330
Goku w/o weighted clothing: 416
Goku, Kamehameha: 924
Gohan: 710
Gohan,Angry: 1,307
~After Battle~
Master Roshi: 139
Krillin: 206
Tien: 250
Yamcha: 177
Chaotzu: 145
~Arrival of Vegeta and Nappa~
Saibamen: 1,200
Yamcha: 1,480

Krillin 1,750
Tien: 1,830
Chaotzu :610
Piccolo,: 3,500 <It's implied that Piccolo is weaker than Gohan's masenko (2,800).
Gohan: 981
Gohan,angry: 3,000

~Arrival of Goku~
Goku: 5,000
Goku,powered up: 8,000 < Stated to be over 8000.
Goku,Kaioh-ken: 16,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken times 3: 24,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken times 4: 32,000
Nappa: 4,000 < Nappa is much stronger. He managed to keep up with Goku. Also forced Goku to use kaioken so he could catch up.
Vegeta: 16,000
Vegeta,powered up: 18,000
Vegeta,Gallet Gun: 35,000 < Are you using a different language for the name? I'm pretty sure it's called Galick Gun (Gyarikku Ho), not that it really matters much.
Vegeta,Oozaru: 180,000




Frieza Saga
~Gohan and Krillin vs Frieza's Henchmen~
Gohan: 14,000 < Stated to be around 1,500 when took out the henchmen.
Krillin: 13,000 < Same as above.
Henchmen: 1,000
~Vegeta vs Cui~
Vegeta: 24,000
Cui: 19,000 < Pretty sure it's either stated or implied he's at 18,000.
~Vegeta vs Dodoria~
Vegeta: 24,000
Dodoria: 21,000 < Don't have anything against this PL, but know that you're saying that 14% difference is in the stomp range.
~Vegeta vs Zarbon (Round 1)~
Vegeta: 24,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Zarbon,transformed: 30,000
~Vegeta vs Zarbon (Round 2)~
Vegeta: 30,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Zarbon,transformed: 30,000
~Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta vs The Ginyu Force~
Krillin,after Guru’s power up: 19,000 < That's too much for the first moment of Guru's Unlock.
Gohan, after Guru’s power up: 24,000 < Same as above.
Vegeta: 30,000
Vegeta Powerd Up 35,000 < If I recall correctly, stated to be at 30,000 against Rikumu.
Guldo: 10,000
Recoome: 40,000
~Goku vs Ginyu Force~
Goku: 90,000
Goku: Kaioken for Ginyu fight: 180,000
Jeice: 50,000 < Nothing indicates that Jisu is so much stronger than Rikumu and Bata. Ginyu pretty much talked as if they were all around the same range of power.
Burter: 45,000
Recoome: 40,000
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
Ginyu,in Goku's body: 23,000
Vegeta: 60,000 < It's implied that Vegeta is stronger than anything Jisu scanned before (180,000) judging by his reaction to it. Although I may be forcing this.
~Nail vs Frieza~
Nail: 42,000
Freezer: 530,000
~Vegeta vs Freezer (1st Fight)~
Vegeta full power: 420,000 < Should be stronger than this, he still held his own against Freeza, although sweating and breathing heavily.
Frieza: 530,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,000,000 < Initial 2nd Form Freeza should be over 1,000,000.
~Piccolo vs Frieza~

Piccolo (after fusing with Nail): 800,000
Piccolo ( fused with nail without weghits) 1,000,000 < Showed to be stronger than 2nd Form Freeza.
Frieza,form 2: 1,000,000
Frieza,form 3: 2,500,000
~Vegeta vs Frieza (2nd Fight)~
Vegeta,after Dende’s heal: 2,500,000< Implied to be stronger than 3rd Form Freeza. Managed to save Gohan from Freeza's finger beam.
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000

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Tien 60,000
yamcha 50,000
chaotzu 13,000

~Goku vs Frieza~
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000
Frieza, 50% of full power: 60,000,000
Frieza, full power: 120,000,000
Goku: 3,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku: 150,000,000


Those are the ones I don't agree with.

There are others, but I feel they're up to opinion / assumption more than anything, so no reason in pointing them out.
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nappa stated at 4000
piccolo is actually stated to be 3500
vegeta cant be over 2,500,000 or then he wouldn’t have easily been killed by frizea so easily
if krillan or gohan was only 1500 then how did punch and kick dorida of his feet
vegeta power up before fighting recome so is above 30,000
vegeta 420,000 is enough to give frizea 1st form some difficulty
jecice is stronger its official not opinion

Also not forgetting that these power levels are official
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Nov 12 2012, 07:59 PM

vegeta cant be over 2,500,000 or then he wouldn’t have easily been killed by frizea so easily
Then,lower Frieza's 3rd form to 2.000.000
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Nov 12 2012, 07:59 PM
nappa stated at 4000
piccolo is actually stated to be 3500
vegeta cant be over 2,500,000 or then he wouldn’t have easily been killed by frizea so easily
if krillan or gohan was only 1500 then how did punch and kick dorida of his feet
vegeta power up before fighting recome so is above 30,000
vegeta 420,000 is enough to give frizea 1st form some difficulty
jecice is stronger its official not opinion

Also not forgetting that these power levels are official
I don't give a rat's ***** if they're official. They contradict what's STATED in the manga, which is the authority in power, not anything else.

Nappa fights almost evenly with an 8,000+ Goku. Goku said it would've taken all day without the Kaio-ken. Someone at half his PL is not going to do that.

Gohan's Masenko at 2,800 is stated to be the highest power from the good guys.

Krillin and Gohan attacked Dodoria by surprise. It doesn't factor in defense or PL, unless you want to claim Piccolo is stronger than 50% Freeza on Namek.

After the power-up Vegeta was stated to be "about 30,000." He cannot be over.

420,000 would get stomped. Vegeta basically stalemated 1st Form Freeza.

Jeice is not stronger. That is opinion. They were all stated in the manga to have about the same level of power.
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vegeta power wasnt that close to frizea first fight because the writers wouldnt have quote him saying about krillain gohan and him ganging on him this basicly means he cant do it alone.
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